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The story continues! Why is Princess Celestia sending such a letter to Princess Cadance...?

Tenth page of the comic! I hope you'll like it! =) Also, here's an extract of the description of the comic directly from the first page: "[...] it privileges comedy and somewhere even cynicism even though I based the whole thing on a plot [...]. That's why I let the characters go a liiiitle OOC [...], even if it's something I try to put as little as possibile. And Pinkie Pie doesn't break the fourth wall, she destroys it and rebuilds it just for the sake of demolishing it again.".
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Ethan-Avail Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2015
....Mmmkay I guess that was funny....

...I dunno, this feels like a sort of thing that comes from before Dragonshy, suuuper primitive, which is sad to see considering this is waaay past those events considering Princess Twilight.

There could've been funnier ways to do this without making Flutters appear completely... well... The thought that Fluttershy's immense fears and anxiety would float away when her friends were in danger, and the images of her controlling her animals are all much more impressive and fascinating, as well as full of story potential, rather than just playing the 'ohgodohgod timid' card.

Not bad!! Just meh. I agree that, as the creator, you ought to create whatever you want for comedy or story, and that's great and totally acceptable. Keep doin' what ya wanna do. But can't say that I.... like it... that much.

I shall continue, I don't mean to seem negative or mean~ Comic is still interesting.
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labba94 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't worry, I perfectly understand :hug: Actually, like I said in one of my previous replies (which arrived after you wrote all of these comments, so it's obvious you couldn't read it before writing this one), I'm indeed aware of the low quality of these first pages. Not just in the artstyle but, as you say, in the story and in the way I depict the Mane 6 too.

I don't know how you got here: maybe through Equestria Daily, maybe through EStories' Journals, or maybe through the widget I put in my userpage. Either way, it might have looked like a serious and well-studied comic series — and I swear I now think of it this way! ^_^ It's just that, when this comic began, the plot hadn't really started yet: the only way to keep people interested in it was by putting lots of "funny" scenes and all, letting comedy make up for the lack of interesting story elements, even if I agree that my way of writing doesn't give too much justice to any of those ponies.

I just hope I was indeed able to change things as Midnight Eclipse progressed. After all, I'm now at page forty-two or something like that... the plot has developed a lot since the beginning of the comic, so I can keep people interested about its story even without relying on bad jokes like these ones! =D
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Maldrete Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2015
*Sigh*. Pinkie Pie is one lost marble away from crazy, not necessarily stupid, and Fluttershy, when her friends are in trouble, rarely stands down from a challenge, let alone so easily.

I don't agree with the way you've written the characters so far, which is very frustrating. Your art and humor have been good though, and the overall story is interesting, so I'll continue reading.
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JNinelives Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
DUN DUN DUN!

Celestia don't look too happy to receive that letter :).
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IcyCrystalLuna Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014
Is it just me, or does that look like sunset shimmer?
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DaviDark-TheGunter Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nope, me too
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TuffyLive Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Now I just let my mouth keep open I am a dummy!  and continue this awesome comic!La la la la 
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Arceuus Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i hate those fairies...
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tank2259 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
ok that was just bull a dog shot a pint 
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EStories Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do you like Celestia? o.O Would be good to know to estimate the way you drew/draw her.

FAV: BEST.FLUTTERSHY.SCENE.EVER.
I expected a specific Fluttershy scene, was totally wrong and therefore I laughed all the more :D
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labba94 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I like her as a character... even though you can say I love all the characters to a certain degree :P And glad you liked the panels with Flutters! ;P
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spyrofan923 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013
.....why does Bluekite look a LOT like Fluttershy?
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HermitBrony Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
Oh come one, even a cute bad little fairy named Snowflake can't be that evil.. and yet she brought an even cuter one =D Bluekite is sooo adorable..! That's why Fluttershy gave up..!
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AlexKazhdan Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Typical Fluttershy. :aww:
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labba94 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah =D
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avixl Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013
:iconironwillplz: :iconsays3plz: Non hai imparato proprio nulla, zerbino giallo???!!
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labba94 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Fluttershy il migliore zerbino in circolazione, attualmente =P
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semi-neutral Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013
ok I think your taking fluttershy's "shyness" a bit too far,


^ is what I would of said if I didn't look up what ooc means, but honestly? having ANY character give up that easily without without even knowing the challenge? I don't know, I don't really agree with it. I respect your decision though
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, you can even say it's exaggerate. And I myself say this because it was my purpose. As the description clearly states, the comic "privileges comedy" and you can consider it something like a soft divertissement.

Nevertheless, I based it on a solid plot... a plot I hope you find interesting, too =)

But of course, I accept your criticism and I understand you ;)
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Silnev Featured By Owner May 29, 2013
:iconjigsawplz: "Hello my little ponies. Because of your inability to realise when you've gone too far you must now face a new type of advisory...I want to play a game."
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
=D
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Allanpike Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Hmmmm... Cadance and Celesita... this is a test they helped set up, isn't it?
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Who knows, who knows... ^^
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Allanpike Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
You do.
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Mikkillerib Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
wow. all of a sudden, there has been a outburst of new pages from you. that is pretty rare to see from a comic on DA.
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I was able to draw a lot of pages in a row because I wasn't busy with university... but in the description I wrote when I published page 11 I explain that period is already over and the pace could now be slowing down. But OF COURSE, there will still be new pages! =)
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Mikkillerib Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
cool.
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Stiopach Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
That last panel...
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Badass Celestia is best Celestia =P
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Stiopach Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I second that!
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mirtar34 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh goody, the hunger games.
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
=D
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Jarkes Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
I think you may have exaggerated Fluttershy's scared tendencies here. If the flutterpony (I keep forgetting her name) had actually revealed what the challenge was and THEN Fluttershy reacted that way (especially if it was something really dangerous and scary), I'd understand.
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, but, as the description of the comic I put in every page says: "it privileges comedy [...]. That's why I let the characters go a liiiitle OOC [...], even if it's something I try to put as little as possibile".

But I understand your thoughts =)
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Alexsi-Zyr Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Only problem is, seeing Fluttershy endanger her friends and possibly the world because of reasonless cowardice is a lot more angering than funny. Maybe if you had the fairy badger her a bit, and Fluttershy fainted from the stress, and the fainting was interpreted as a forfeit... but as it is, it's just kind of a 'Well, that was stupid' moment
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't forget that Fluttershy was also the one who tried in every way to avoid confronting directly the dragon who was threatening Equestria until her friend were in concrete peril (Dragonshy). The same goes here, not to mention the fact there are still two challenges, thus meaning her refuse to compete has not totally harmed the chances of winning.
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SwiftestShadow Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Second to last panel. "...we are very glad to know you did what [missing word, probably "we"] requested."
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think the sentence is acceptable as it is: it's a past participle, you can read it as "you did what [was] requested", thus the "was" can be removed. But of course, I can be mistaken ^^
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HalflingPony Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Swiftest is correct, there needs to be an additional word. Exactly *why* there needs to be a word there made me scratch my head for a little while. Please feel free to tune out for the rest of this. I'm not trying to beat you over the head with grammar- I just found dissecting this sentence to be an enjoyable little logic puzzle and want to share my thought process.

If you read the sentence as "...you did what was requested", then "what was requested" is a noun clause acting as a direct object. In this case, "what" is the subject of the noun clause and "was requested" is a past tense verb in the passive voice. Removing the word "was" changes the verb to the active voice. Now we have a problem. Anytime you change from passive to active, the subject of the passive clause swaps places with the object of its active equivalent. E.g. "The dog was being fed by Billy," is the passive equivalent of "Billy fed the dog." In the passive form, "dog" is the subject and "Billy" the object. In the active form, "Billy" is the subject and "dog" the object.

Now apply this to the original clause. The passive form "what was requested" is a complete clause- both a subject and verb are present. If we drop the "was", however, the verb form "requested" switches to active voice and the former subject "what" becomes the object of the clause. The problem is there is no object in the original passive clause to provide a subject for the new active clause. The new clause is left incomplete. E.g. "The dog was being fed," is a complete sentence. "Fed the dog," is not. Swiftest's original suggestion of "what we requested" addresses this issue by inserting a new subject- "we".
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's sure an interesting discussion: just out of curiosity, I just typed "did what requested" on Google and I obtained almost two thousand of results [About 1,190 results (0.09 seconds)] - and the great majority of them uses the sentence with the same meaning I did in the comic, still without additional subjects. With this I don't want to say you are wrong, in fact your arguments are very convincing and I'm just wondering why there are so many people using "requested" like that if it's not properly correct. Of course, if you look for something similar, such as "do what requested", you obtain examples of this sentence as well.

I can't help but to think that "what requested" may have become something like a... "single word", a thing you perceive like a unicuum, thus it becomes as a whole a direct object: you did WHAT REQUESTED, as if you said "you did GREAT THINGS", and so on.

But I'm a mathematician, I'm no linguist: numbers cannot trick me, letters most of the time do =P
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HalflingPony Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ok, I'm game- let's look at numbers.

I did several similar Google searches with the following results:

"did what requested" [About 1,100 results (0.27 seconds)] (I'm not sure why Google gave me 90 fewer than it gave you- I guess their algorithm is just weird that way)
"do what requested" [About 3,620 results (0.27 seconds)]

"did what i requested" [About 4,430,000 results (0.35 seconds)]
"did what you requested" [About 2,400,000 results (0.37 seconds)]
"did what we requested" [About 376,000 results (0.34 seconds)]
"did what was requested" [About 2,780,000 results (0.41 seconds)]
"do what i requested" [About 17,700,000 results (0.33 seconds)]
"do what you requested" [About 51,600,000 results (0.23 seconds)]
"do what we requested" [About 2,160,000 results (0.36 seconds)]
"do what was requested" [About 4,280,000 results (0.31 seconds)]

Obviously there are a number of other permutations that could be used here, but even with this relatively small sample it quickly becomes apparent that the use of the "what requested" form is an anomaly. Even if we assume that every single page using it did so intentionally and did not merely mistype the phrase, less than one-tenth of a percent of my (not at all rigorous and statistically cringe-worthy) survey believes the form to be correct.

Oh, and just for the record- I don't care one Equestrian Standard Bit whether you keep using the phrase or not. I'm just enjoying the dialog. ;)
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That was an interesting discussion anyway ^^ Grammar is always full of traps, but I enjoy debating about it. Just like I do with math: the only difference is that the last one is what I actually do in everyday life, while grammar... eh, it's not properly my field =D
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lockmaster24 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Hey, someone actually spells Cadance's name correctly, that's surprisingly rare.
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, I knew some people misspelled it as "Cadence", but I didn't know that mistake was SO common ^^
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lockmaster24 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
It's more common than the correct spelling, it irritates me cause I use the name Pirate Cadance on a lot of pony related sites.
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Jarkes Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
Both spellings are viable and have been used in official materials, but I prefer "Cadance" myself.

I don't mind it when someone spells it as "Cadence," as long as they spell it that way consistently throughout their fanfic/fancomic/whatever.
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catluvr2 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I find it irritating whenever things like that are spelled incorrectly; I have quite an eye for detail, so it practically screams at me to notice it.

And before you ask, yes, I'm most like Rarity, but Pinkie Pie isn't far behind.

*labba94, I'd like you to read my comment too. *hopes that Mentions are on*
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Yarrix Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I love this Comic^^
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labba94 Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Uh, thank you! ^__^
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Yarrix Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
You are welcome^^




(I hope that was writing correct)
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