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The shaman... is not that gentle, is she? =P

Twenty-fourth page of the comic! I hope you'll like it! =) Also, here's an extract of the description of the comic directly from the first page: "[...] it privileges comedy and somewhere even cynicism even though I based the whole thing on a plot [...]. That's why I let the characters go a liiiitle OOC [...], even if it's something I try to put as little as possibile. And Pinkie Pie doesn't break the fourth wall, she destroys it and rebuilds it just for the sake of demolishing it again.".
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Ethan-Avail Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2015
Huh... So she's... gonna antagonize an entire nation... by using a spell that makes her big and one of the Princesses small... that only lasts 24 hours.

...Yeeaaah....

I'm suuper curious about what's really going on here. The way Midnight kept referring to 'that pony' made me think Tia was involved, and considering how all of her appearances have gone down so far and the things she's said about Twilight becoming an Alicorn.... and the fact that she sent a letter to Cadence... and the lack of shock or care that the elements are harmony are missing... Hm.

If Tia isn't evil, I'd LOVE to see how the heck she justifies all this crap and serious risk of security and safety. Or why she has to be cryptic about it.
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labba94 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Wait a minute, let me see which page we're talking about... ah, page 24 :iconapplejackplz: Trust me when I say I rarely read my own comic series from the beginning, so I often forget at which page certain events happen, or what's going on in a specific page: that's because I think most of the first pages were really bad, and whenever I read them I think of all the people who told me so in the comments. Hence I can't keep reading, since it's a bit... painful.

Though you shouldn't feel bad for that: if what you're reading is bad, you have the right to say so! :clap: Also because, thanks to those comments, I was able to raise the quality when the next pages were drawn: and this is much more important than me not being able to read my own comic series without bad memories popping out in my mind, so no worries about that! ^o^

So, speaking of your comment... ah, all of your doubts are legit: I thought I would write much more here, but I actually can't or I'd spoil some of the things I've yet to draw! :nod: I'll just say you can trust me: I won't leave any questions unanswered, and everything will carefully be explained at the end! ;)
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TuffyLive Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Now my brain started evaporating (IMing - :flailrage: + PLZ)

making comic just like a movie (perfect storyline) I need to breath (This comic is so awesome!!):D (Big Grin) 
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dragonclaw20 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Every part is coming into place purrfectly. keep it up:D (Big Grin) 
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RechaDis Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
How long take you to make a page?
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zWolffangz Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013
Aww man now i caught up to the point where i have to wait for new comics. :(
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't worry, it's a comic that is updated quite often! =P
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zWolffangz Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013
ok.... =P
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Twylite-Sparkle Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
This gets more & more suspensful as it goes on...
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And that's a good thing after all, isn't it? =P
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Twylite-Sparkle Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Of course!
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BoneSatellite Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013
Pinkie Pie saves the day by accident...or at least provides them with an edge by accident.
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, Pinkie Pie is currently one of the few advantages the main cast can rely on now xD
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Babyjoshy5 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The other fairy be so totally lost by being with the Shaman... by not explaining it to her.
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JETJK3 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013
I love looking at Twilight and Shaman Faces they have the most Solid and Calmest Demeanor :iconsmirkplz:
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
From time to time, I receive such comments about their expressions, I'm glad they are able to grasp a lot of attention xD
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JETJK3 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013
Well it is important to pay attention to things that really matter and right now that's what really matters
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah XD
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Mikkillerib Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
:iconpinkiegaspplz: she's not planning to step on them, is she?
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iamli3 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
wait , that's the big explanation? cause she wasn't there for the spell being cast?..............duh kinda? i thought that was kind of obvious when she said she went and hid behind some cover.....
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hahah! xD Well, that's different: one thing is the tree being able to block magical blasts, another thing is being too far away for the spell to work. But of course, forgive me if the explanation still doesn't please you ^^
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sonic101001 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
Based on what we see in the show, couldn't Pinkie just bust out her party cannon and blast the shaman to hell...heh reminds me of Shadow the Hedgehog "You're going straight to hell!".

Anyways, nice job, this is shaping up to be one epic story! Can't wait to see the next page!
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Her party cannon sure is a weapon of mass destruction! =D Thanks, I'm glad you like it! ^^
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sonic101001 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013
Pinkie pie is a weapon of mass...um craziness?
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CommanderEX Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
It is odd that main villain of the story did not finished mane 6 when she had a chance considering time limit, after all what she can accomplish in one day, even if she take over Ponyvile, Twilight and her friends will take it back when they return to normal.

Right now I do not know do it would even make sense for Twilight and her friends to rush and face main villain with size disadvantage if they can just wait it up, and they still have a giant Pinkie on their side.
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
In page 14, the shaman said she couldn't harm them right now since it was probably not what that pony wanted. As for what Twilight is going to do, it is indeed a good question... but don't forget that if they wait too much, then they put Ponyville at risk... =D
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CommanderEX Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
Also:

Nightmare Moon arrive, Celestia made sure that Twilight get friends and unlock elements to become element bearers and heal Luna from the curse.
Discord show up, Celestia and Luna can not use elements so mane 6 must do the dirty work again.
Changelings invade, Celestia screw up because her opponent is little stronger, mane 6 gets defeated by army of changeling, Cadance and Shining Armor repel entire invasion.

Considering that there are excuses why mane 6 have to do all the work, and there was also royal wedding when mane 6 failed and someone else had to safe the day, it is only fair if now when mane 5 are tiny and they all do not have access to elements, they have no obligation to risk their lives to stop one pony who want to take over Ponyvile, they should leave this responsibility to guards, princesses or even ponies from ponyvile themselves.

I can understand that Celestia try to guide rather than assist, to make sure that ponies can solve the problems without relying on her, but it looks more like "element bearers choice mane 6 to be their bearers, than do not come to me to solve all problems, now go to mane 6 to solve all problems."

This seems complitly unfair and inpractical, Celestia should not give mane 6 all the burden of protecting Equestria, because it just make all ponies in Equestria "changeling's, manticore, a spider, why should we bother to fight than, mane 6 will do it for me", Equestria is a one big country, and every pony in it should cooperate to keep it safe, showing all burned into mane 6 will just make it weaker and pathetic.
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't forget that Twilight has something like a "moral obligation" when it comes to this: the story is set not long after the coronation thing, so Twilight is still a newbie as a princess. If she knew about a threat covering Ponyville and still did nothing about it, it would certainly not be a good way to start her new "career"... not to mention how Twilight always wants to look perfect to Celestia's eyes. Plus... it's not some strange or almost unknown town, it's Ponyville, the Ponyville she lives in. And Spike is there, too. The desire to protect your friends and acquaintances is comprehensible. The fact you don't know what they are going to do once they get in there is another powerful reason.

On the other hand, it would indeed be dangerous and stupid to clearly attack them while being this tiny, and I understand your concern.

This reply is supposed to answer to both comments... and believe me: a character going a little OOC for a gag is one thing, the whole main group going OOC for story matters is another thing, and I might add another STUPID thing. So don't fear, the story has already been studied carefully and I'm trying to keep things coherent. After all, there is a reason why I made them know about the time limit... and it's not to make them look idiotic. The biggest problem about the plot of this comic is that some things aren't what they look like... that was evident in some of the previous pages, e.g. when a user contested a certain sentence: I told him it wasn't wrong, it was just that he didn't grasp the real meaning... for the simple reason I concealed it, on purpose. In this situation the whole thing is a little bit clearer, but still... believe me, at the very least I can tell you I hope everything will be totally fine (and coherent) when the end arrives =)

If I wasn't able to clarify your doubts, or if there were any questions of yours I carelessly didn't answer to, feel free to tell me that ^^
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CommanderEX Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013
Well, when you said, Twilight have moral obligation, it sounds as if Celestia and Luna have no moral obligation towards Equestria.

After all they use excuse that they are not connected to elements, so they do nothing to assist when they can still assist a little, as result they ( or at lease Celesta ) take a risk to teach her student a lesson and advance her in her study.
But in Twilight situation, she have a perfect excuse why she should wait until the shrinking spell run out before doing something, a good excuse why she should not protect ponies what are far bigger then her, and yet she is willing too.

All I was trying to do is compare Celesta/Luna and Twilight situation ( Celestia and Luna can assist and save the day with easy and they do nothing to teach Twilight a lesson, Twilight is shrunken and in disadvantage and it would require one day of waiting to get her advantage back, and yet it seems she is willing to take a risk when it would be better to let others handle the problem ( it raise a question, do after hundreds of years when Twilight will gain power and experience, do she will become like Celestia and not use her power at all to help, but instead guide other ponies to become stronger, I personally hope not, because in my opinion, if one have power to help, one should use, and if one is weak at the moment, he should let others handle the problem ).

But enough of rambling, lets get back to your story.

If I was Twilight, I would
a) Wait until spell run out and then take ponyvile back, with hope that their opponent does not want to hurt any pony ( mane 5 are more defenceless then ponies in ponyvile, so if they rush now, they will lose and would be unable to save the day tomorrow ).
b) Sneak to ponyvile and evacuate Spike, while making sure that he send letter to Celestia or Luna, asking for assistance, the goal here is to protect ponyvile after all, and since powerful old princesses can do it better than a young weaker shrunken one, it is the best decision, and if Twilight is really worry about Ponyvile, she should risk her reputation as princess just to save ponies.
c) If they are close to Crystal Empire, Twilight and her friends should get there ASAP, ask for Shining Armor, Cadance and maybe Krystal Ponies guards for assistance, use train or chairot and take back ponyvile, after all they need to get to train station in Crystal Empire to get to ponyvile as fast as possible anyway.
d) Sneak to ponyvile, gather ponies ( Big Mac ) capable to defend the town and lead resistance ( if mane 5 are tiny, they can gather big ponies to do the fighting ).

Do not get me wrong, I really hope to see tiny Twilight using her new alicorn powers to fight again main villain, and even being stomped ( enduring it only thanks to being alicorn ), but with spell being on time limit and with so many better solution than rushing into fight while being small, it seems a bit unfair for tiny mane 5 to defend hundreds of not tiny ponies in ponyvile ( if tiny Twilight will fight again big Shaman, I hope it will be plot wise ).
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, you know, I follow ArofaTamahn's comic too, therefore I happened to read your comments in the last page he uploaded: so I know how much you'd like Celestia not being shown as a useless princess who does nothing but delegating her duties to her student/subjects/Elements/whatever.

Also, I read the options you wrote and I must say they are very wise and coherent with what's happening. The option you strongly deny is Twilight following Midnight and that other fairy to attack them before the effects of the spell run out, and it would in fact be a careless choice. While there are some things you accept, just like Twilight going to the Crystal Empire. And I have to say that you got a lot of things right, in the sense that you guessed correctly some of the developments of the story (but of course I won't tell you what, to avoid spoilers: I just tell you that you proposed some acceptable possibilities, and among them...). Plus, one thing in particular is exactly what I wanted the characters to do: I'm writing it beforehand to avoid people complaining about the fact I copied the idea from this comment of yours, so if you ever find something in the comic that you foresaw here, you'll know I had planned to do so from the very beginning. But after all you could still think it was an idea present since the beginning since there are a lot of hints dropped in the various pages which, if collected, can tell you where this whole story is going (and if you find them after the events they indicate take place, you would know you could have predicted them from the beginning if you had interpreted them correctly).

As the story is completely decided, the only thing I take into account from page to page is how to render some events in the panels I can use in each page, so you can say I sometimes wonder if a certain event can take place in 3 pages or 4 pages, according to how I can render it. This is why I can only give you an estimate, but I can tell you that in the next 3-5 pages your questions about what Twilight and her friends are going to do will find their answers.
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CommanderEX Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013
Well, to be honest part of me want to see tiny alicorn Twilight fight midnight, and even being stomped a few times, but other part of me not want to see mane 6 doing all dirty work when there are so many better solutions, especially for tiny mane 6 to defend entire town of big ponies ( it is one think to defend Equestria when mane 6 are the only ponies who can use elements, and so others use excuse that they can not do a think to help them ), but ( it is other think when mane 6 have no elements and are shrunked, why should they protect ponyvile, now it should be other way around ).

So yea, all I can do is to watch your comics, hope that on one side mane 6 will not have to do all dirty work as they always do, and on other side I hope to see tiny Twilight fighting giant Midnight, but for legitimate reasons ( the reason that Midnight attacked them the moment she shrunk them is out ).

So yea, I will just watch your comics, see do my predictions are correct, and hope for the best.
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CommanderEX Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
Keep in mind that:
1) If Shaman did not hurt mane 6,  why would they suspect that she would hurt any pony in ponyvile, even Trixie who took over while under control of alicorn amulet did not do to much damage in so short time, ( they deal with a pony who want to take over ponyvile to show that she is better than Twilight, big deal, nothing is at risk ).
2) Mane 6 are not the only ones in the entire Equestria, come on, there are two powerful princesses ruling over it and entire army of royal guards. If something go wrong, Spike can just send letter to Celestia or princesses will notice and investigate.
3) Mane 6 may be extraordinary ponies, but they are still ponies, and Twilight may be alicorn, but she is a new young alicorn (she just learn), mane 6 stronger point is they ability to use elements to KO powerful villains, but they are not one pony army, fight again changeling's proved it ( most of many 6 are tiny, and they have no access to elements, so why should tiny size heroes risk their lives to protect a big size ponies who most likely can take care of themselves ).
4) On the farm there is a big mac, who may not be as strong as Twilight with her magic, but he can still lift 1/3 of weight Twilight can levitate, and he can give a punch. I think that ponyvile ponies with their normal size can defend themselves better then mane 5 in tiny size ( members of mane 5 were just ordinary ponies from ponyvile until they become element bearers ).

So yea, with all honestly, there is no rush, all they need to do is wait and than take Ponyvile back, or let other princesses handle it for once. I am afraid that with spell on time limit, decision to rush would be stupid even for mane 6 standards, they are tiny, they do not have elements, so why should not they leave the job to princesses, big trained guards or even Big Mac and other ponies from ponyvile ( even Cherely who is just a teacher can kick far harder then Appletiny ).
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Sanyo2100 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just saying, karma is a bitch, so don't come back crying if PRINCESS Twilight Sparkle decides to grow her DRAGON and...squish you a bit and make Shaman Jam with you. Later don't tell me i didn't warn you
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That would be a very funny outcome xD
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Sanyo2100 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now in you store, Zap apple Jam, Muffin Jam and the new flavour Evil Shaman Jam, taste the evilness today!
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha! =D
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Narflarg Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I sense a Shadow of the Colossus reference coming when the fight breaks out. 
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Really? =D Well, to tell you the truth I didn't know that game, but who knows if the battle turns out to resemble that... =P
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benzema2912 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
Yippie ya yeah... New Page <3
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah! ^^
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benzema2912 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
Thats one of the Best comics I've ever read... + I <3 the look of them.. so cool
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Really? I'm so happy to know that! =)
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benzema2912 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
eeejup :)
Is the story a work in progress or do you just make those pages along to an existing Storyline?
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The story has already been decided to its finest details (including the ending). I just draw it when I have the time, page by page ^^
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benzema2912 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
OH I NEEED this Story :o
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Patiently, I hope I will be able to finish drawing it... soon =P
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wonder if Shaman prepared the so-called "Xanatos Gambit" (as it's called on tvtropes.org) =p
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, so you read tvtropes too (even if I didn't know this specific trope =D)! Well, who knows... but the shaman must have certainly something on her mind =P

P.S.: Also, my eye is OK now! ^^
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
.tvtropes are addicting. I even use tropes names quite often =p
and good to know your eye is fine now!
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labba94 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I agree xD Some pages are even more than hilarious =D
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